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« on: April 17, 2009, 01:06:20 PM »

I remember being irritated when I first installed Half-Life 2, back in 2004 (I got it for Christmas from Tessgirl). I hated the fact that you needed to have a working internet connection before the game would unlock itself and become playable.

But at least the Steam service... Valve's own form of anti-piracy protection... gives you a lot more than just a headache. I actually kinda like Steam, all things considered. I don't like the copy protection aspect of it, but I do like Steam's numerous other features (automated updates, online store, game support forums, extra content for various games, etc). At least Valve *tried* to meet us all halfway.

Note that I am not trying to vindicate Valve. I'm just saying that if you *must* jam some form of anti-piracy up our asses, then at least make it useful the way Steam is... instead of insulting us with draconian and invasive crappola that serves no other purpose than to encourage us to start supporting hackers and pirates out of frustration.

In short: DRM is dysfunctional, in most cases. The end result of this nastiness will be to encourage the public to support piracy -- the exact opposite of what the publishers are trying to accomplish. Stardock studios said more or less the same thing, when they justified their decision to *avoid* using DRM copy protection on their own games:

DRM encourages piracy. It is as simple as that.

I am about >this close< to revoking the official tessmage.com stance against software piracy. If this insulting and arrogant horseshit continues on the part of the PC gaming industry, then don't be surprised if one of these days I start publishing pro-piracy rants (and instructions on how to defeat DRM) on our main page.   Angry
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2009, 03:19:55 PM »

well if you DO change your stance let me know first and foremost cause i uh ahem...... never mind  angel


EDIT and for the record if u ahem need help um finding something im more then willing to help u find it XD  cause lets face it sometimes u just cant find what ur looking for and u need a helping hand
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2009, 03:56:09 PM »

I can help with he instructions as I already remove all traces of DRM from my PCs (even when I'm running legal copies). angel
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2009, 04:34:00 PM »

Noted... from both of you.   Wink
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2009, 01:50:53 AM »

I few pc games I was looking toward have been ruined by DRM.
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2009, 01:57:20 AM »

Lots of them have.  Angry
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2009, 02:03:41 AM »

Also ever noticed how PC ports come out a few months after the console releases.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2009, 02:10:57 AM »

It didn't used to be that way.

And have you noticed that these PC ports invariably SUCK..? Bad controls, bad UI,
sloppy coding and generally wretched performance. Good coders could do better,
and most studios have good coders. They simply don't give a shit anymore.

There hasn't been a truly special PC game released since Bloodlines. That's a fact.
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2009, 03:13:21 AM »

It didn't used to be that way.

And have you noticed that these PC ports invariably SUCK..? Bad controls, bad UI,
sloppy coding and generally wretched performance. Good coders could do better,
and most studios have good coders. They simply don't give a shit anymore.

There hasn't been a truly special PC game released since Bloodlines. That's a fact.

Yep, but I heard Capcom is doing a lot better with their PC ports but even then they release their PC ports a few months after the console versions come out.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2009, 04:09:47 AM »

True, but they add stuff to them too.
Devil may cry 3 port SUCKED, but Devil may cry 4 was AWESOME, one of the best of the series!

They have improved alot. It's a fact if they continue this way their productions they might make a breakthrough RPG like Bloodlines.  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2009, 06:25:59 AM »

When it comes to optimization and performance, Devil May Cry 4 is a great example of successful console ports on the PC. If even Kandid buys and enjoys the last installment of a native console game series, it means something. Tongue

But I have to say it, Capcom could have changed its menu and gameplay a bit to make it more keyboard friendly.
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2009, 10:58:04 AM »

I thought DMC was just the right difficulty with keyboard...
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2009, 11:12:44 AM »

It was much better for me with a gamepad. Each to their own.
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2009, 12:52:20 PM »

It's true.
I don't like DRM protected games, especially Sony DRM.
Sony blew it for me... no more Sony ever....
The rest of the DRM system can and will eventually screw up one's system with all those little changes, it's destined to turn into borkware.

As for Steam ?
One of the most user friendly copy-protection around, CD key being the friendliest.
Steam is also a good place to sell your game if you're a small developer...there's no need for EA, Atari, etc.
I don't like it and I don't hate it.
Atm I use it almost daily, playing a lot of Left 4 Dead.
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2009, 10:37:54 PM »

Easy for you, It took me a while to uninstall all that DRM Half-Life 2 left behind, I use Revo uninstaller to go into the registry and wipe out the DRM. Even now, Micropain when updating is trying to put DRM into my system, but I have the option of yea or nae to go ahead with downloads. These developers or whatever don't make it easy for you anymore.
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2009, 10:53:28 PM »

These developers or whatever don't make it easy for you anymore.

That's because they feel as if they have the right to control *your* computer.

Imagine if you bought a car, and the salesman insisted on installing a device that
only allowed your car to steer itself to those places that the salesman approved of.

My advice to everyone... and bear in mind that this is just me exercising my right
to free speech... is to do whatever you have to do in order to defeat DRM.

If that means pirating and hacking... then so be it. I'm fed up with this industry.
I'm sure that most of you are just as fed up as I am. We are entering a new era,
in which getting angry and taking matters into our own hands just might be the
only way to protect ourselves from being exploited. Lord knows that the courts
and the legislators are not doing a fucking thing to protect us from unethical
business practices... so when the system fails, the people need to take over.

Obeying the law is always preferable... but when the law becomes the enemy
of the common man and woman... then the law itself is oppressive and needs
to be disobeyed. So hey, people... do as your heart tells you to do and to hell
with the fucking Establishment.

By the way... if you think I'm being a "subversive" for saying such things, then take
a good look at all of those Wall Street bailouts. That's YOUR money being paid as
a fucking reward to the very same Establishment parasites who SCREWED US
UP THE ASS. Then decide what "subversive" means in this context.

All of this shit -- DRM included -- is just a symptom of a much larger disease.  Angry
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2009, 09:22:02 AM »

http://www.cristgaming.com/pirate.swf
'nuff said  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2009, 09:22:30 AM »

also just think if DRM ever died game price would have to fall cause theres one less thing of overhead for a company to worry about hmm i wonder if someone made that point to them that without DRM u would save money in overhead and sell more copies? if no one has someone should XD
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