Just in case anybody was wondering, I'll be supporting Bernie Sanders for president in 2016.
He's the only one of the major candidates who is liberal enough to suit me.
Furthermore... there is no question in my mind that, during the first Democratic debate (hosted by CNN), Bernie absolutely demolished all of the other candidates.
I also feel that Bernie is the only candidate who isn't secretly sucking corporate cock behind closed doors.
(http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/files/2015/05/bernie-sanders-1024x650.jpg)
Gotta like that he's an unabashed socialist who isn't afraid to own the term or stand up for true liberal policies that have slowly been abandoned over the last 40 years by "mainstream" Democrats. 8)
He is the only one who has an actual personality.
There is a interview he did with rapper Killer Mike.
Talking Shop With Bernie Sanders & Killer Mike: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkRT6sInhvHVb96gl-uxn2LxBqEL4Iv9A
QuoteOn November 23rd, 2015, Killer Mike sat down with Senator Bernie Sanders at The SWAG Shop in Atlanta, GA to discuss topics ranging from gun control to democratic socialism.
Liked the part where they talk about people being pitted against each other.
The question is: can he "Stump the Trump"? I can't say I have a first hand experience of American politics all the way from Africa, but Trump sure seems to be talked about far more that Sanders, and he's abusing the Syrian/Isis terror to fuel his campaign like a pro. (Not that that's a good thing.)
The media likes to talk about Trump, because he was a celebrity long before he got into politics.
But I can promise you that Donald Trump has zero chance of getting elected as President. He isn't right-wing enough to serve the rather extreme agenda of the modern Republican party. I would be mildly surprised if he actually ended up being the Republican nominee.
A series of straw polls, conducted over the course of the past few months, shows that Bernie Sanders is significantly more popular than any of the other Democratic candidates.
In the most recent of these polls (which was conducted in December), when asked "Who do you think has the best chance to defeat the Republicans in 2016," the results are as follows:
Total votes 155,111
Hillary Clinton -- 32%
Bernie Sanders -- 46%
Martin O'Malley -- 2.0%
Undecided -- 17%
SOURCE: Democrats.com
Clearly, the American people are ready to embrace the most liberal candidate (Sanders), which I see as being a further indication that this country has been taking a big swing to the left during the post-Bush era.
Currently, Sanders enjoys a 14-point lead over Hillary Clinton... and yet the media spends far more time talking about Hillary and Donald Trump than they spend on Bernie Sanders. Not surprising, given the fact that the mass media are, for the most part, pro-Establishment toadies and corporate boot-lickers. To make matters worse, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz... the current leader of the Democratic National Committee... is in bed with Hillary and has been doing her sneaky, nasty, hyphenated-last-name best to torpedo the Sanders campaign.
Yet in spite of all of that insidious horseshit, Bernie Sanders continues to rise in popularity. He has been the clear winner in every single televised debate, which has no doubt impressed people far more than Hillary's corporate-funded campaign commercials. Go, Bernie..!!!
Haha well, from my outside perspective, Bernie Sanders certainly sounds like the better option. Can't say that much more about it though, my countries economy is tanking because we haven't bothered to get rid of our President idiot yet...
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^^
Pretty much
Well... Bernie fans should be pleased to know that the members of MoveOn.org... the largest grassroots organization in America... overwhelmingly voted (nearly 80%) to support Bernie Sanders in the primaries. Roughly 17% voted to support Hillary, with the remaining few percent of MoveOn members being undecided.
This vote to support Bernie was also the single biggest response by MoveOn's members in the organization's history. It represents an unprecedented show of support... no other candidate has ever received such strong support from MoveOn.org as Bernie Sanders has. Think about it: there were nearly 350,000 respondents (a record for MoveOn), of which nearly 80% voted for MoveOn to fully support the Sanders campaign.
Bernie is gaining momentum against Hillary... BIG time. If he manages to win both the Iowa and New Hampshire caucuses, then the Democratic Party will have no excuse not to make him their official presidential nominee. Debbie Hyphenated-Schultz be damned.
MoveOn.org did Hillary in eight years ago too, when its membership voted to endorse Barack Obama instead. Maybe history can repeat itself here...with a President worthy of the office. ;)
What I worry about the most is this: the last time we had a candidate who was so far to the left, he was KILLED. I'm referring to Robert Kennedy, back in '68. The Establishment has already shows us that they have no qualms about murdering anyone who stand between them and their greed... and their power-mongering. So I hope Bernie is sharp enough to realize just how dangerous his life is becoming.
I'd also like to say that I have no problem with the notion of a woman as our president. Just not THAT woman. Hillary Clinton is a player... and I hate players. She voted for the Iraq war, she worked hard to jam every American into privatized HMO's (which is, in fact, at the core of "Obamacare")... instead of what Bernie wanted: which was a true, single-payer, national health care system.
Anyway, Bernie's numbers keep growing, where as Hillary's numbers keep shrinking. I doubt that she will have the support that she needs to become the next Democratic candidate. But if she gets her party's nomination anyway, then you can be sure that The Establishment is once again usurping our sham democracy and throwing their weight behind one of their own. Namely: Hillary the player.
Let's hope that it doesn't come to that.
Ben and Jerry Endorse Bernie SandersBen and Jerry... the famous ice cream moguls... have thrown their support behind Bernie Sanders for President.
In this excerpt from a recent statement, Ben (Cohen) and Jerry (Greenfield) explained why they feel confident that Sanders is the best candidate:
Quote from: Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield
It was a total no-brainer for us to drop everything and get to work for Bernie in Iowa.
Here are five reasons why, if you support Bernie like we do, that donating to his campaign right now—and MoveOn's efforts to help him win—should be a no-brainer for you, too.
1. Bernie's the real deal. We've been working alongside him for years, as he's fought to end war, to get big money out of politics, to strengthen Social Security, to fix lopsided tax policy, to demand fair wages, to tackle rising student debt, to fight for Black Lives, and so much more.
2. He wins elections. The political elites never thought he'd become the mayor of Burlington, Vermont—let alone win a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives. And they all laughed when he ran for the U.S. Senate—but he won! Again and again—for decades—he's won when the pundits thought it was impossible.
3. Bernie's surging in the polls, trailing by only two points in one recent Iowa poll, and closing in fast. He has an amazing ground game—and more TV ads on the air than his opponents!
4. If Bernie wins Iowa and New Hampshire, it'll give him huge momentum towards winning the Democratic nomination—and the presidency.
5. If Bernie Sanders becomes president, he'll take on the billionaire class—and fight for the rest of us. Just take a deep breath and imagine Bernie winning Iowa and New Hampshire. Then imagine a bold progressive in the White House, breaking up the Big Banks. (He beats Donald Trump in a hypothetical match-up, so it really can happen.)
Bernie absolutely can win, but only if we give it our all. And if we don't, he won't. Because as he'll tell you, it's about us—a movement of millions of Americans. Not him. So don't wake up the day after Iowa and wish you'd done more. Join us instead.
Thank you so much. Let's win this!
—Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield
Sounds good to me... and I agree with everything that Ben and Jerry have said about Bernie. Particularly the part where they point out that, despite the apparently endless nay-saying and skepticism from the political establishment, Bernie Sanders has nevertheless been victorious in nearly every single election that he has participated in. The talking heads out there need to realize that this country is swinging a lot further to the left than the mass media would have us believe.
So thank you, Ben and Jerry. But I gotta say... I still prefer Haagen-Dazs. :P
The following chart should help everyone understand the playing field a little better:
(http://www.tessmage.com/images/misc/Bernie_vs_Hillary_and_republicans_on_issues.jpg)
Seems like a no-brainer to me. Bernie is our man. 8)
I may not be American but i do hope Bernie wins.
Why?
Because if the Canadian government is going to be blindly following whatever the USA government is doing anyway, it might as well follow the one doing the right things for the right reasons.
QuoteHillary Clinton is a player... and I hate players.
Yep, she will say anything to appeal to voters, like this:
"Hillary Clinton Vows To Investigate UFOs And Area 51"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-vows-to-investigate-ufos_us_5687073ce4b014efe0da95db
"Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton is hoping to make history, not just as the first woman president, but as the political leader who is going to "get to the bottom" of the mystery behind UFOs."
IOWA CAUCUS RESULTS
Well, the preliminary results are in for the Iowa caucus... and as one might expect, it's pretty much a dead heat between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. As of this time, most of the major news outlets are declaring this race "too close to call."
As of the time of this posting, Clinton is leading by a very tiny margin:
CLINTON: 49.9% 49.8%
SANDERS: 49.6%
Look at that... they're separated by a mere 0.3 percent. With numbers like that, I think we need to declare this one a tie. SEE UPDATE BELOW
However... according to C-SPAN, there are already allegations being made of alleged voter fraud being perpetrated by the Clinton camp:
Clinton voter fraud in Polk County, Iowa Caucus
Caucus chair and Clinton precinct captain do not conduct actual count of Clinton supporters and deliberately mislead caucus
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4578575/clinton-voter-fraud-polk-county-iowa-caucus
So, is Hillary guilty of trying to illegally stack this race in her favor..? I honestly have no idea... it's too soon to say anything one way or the other, until we have more facts.
In any case, the talking heads have been predicting that Hillary would emerge as "the clear winner" in Iowa... when in fact, the actual results are not very clear at all. Officially, the two candidates are almost exactly tied with one another. And if these allegations of voter fraud should turn out to have any actual truth to them, then Bernie Sanders may very well be the actual winner in Iowa tonight.
THE BOTTOM LINE: it's still too close to call. Bernie Sanders continues to enjoy a VERY strong showing. Hillary Clinton has the name recognition on her side... but Bernie Sanders has the ISSUES, which are far more important. The candidate (Sanders) that the Establishment have been saying "can't get elected" is actually turning out to be extremely popular. MoveOn.org, Michael Moore, Susan Sarandon, Ben and Jerry, and many, many, many others are beginning to step forward and throw their support behind Sanders for president. This is becoming a very interesting race... and it could also turn into a major upset.
UPDATE: Hillary Clinton's lead has now been updated... from 49.9% down to 49.8% (a decrease of 0.1 percent). I don't know if this decrease has anything to do with the allegations of a deliberate miscount in the so-called "Clinton precincts" or not... but it would appear that this race between Clinton and Sanders is, indeed, not just a virtual tie, but an actual tie. The votes are still being tabulated as I write this... and we could see Clinton's tiny lead become even tinier before the night is through.
What do they do in a event of a tie?
Quote from: Blankspace on February 01, 2016, 10:23:06 PM
What do they do in a event of a tie?
They will award an equal number of Iowa delegates to each candidate. That's what they do in a tie.
Right now, Hillary's numbers in Iowa keep vacillating between 49.8% and 49.9% as more precincts are being tabulated. It really is impossible to declare a "winner" in that race. Which is a good thing, actually.
Keep in mind that the next big contest for delegates will take place in New Hampshire... and New Hampshire is a much more liberal state than Iowa. We can expect Bernie Sanders to DESTROY Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire.
So... if Clinton and Sanders emerge from Iowa with an equal number of delegates, and if Sanders wins with a comfortable majority in New Hampshire, then the only logical conclusion would be that Bernie Sanders should be the Democratic party's nominee.
Things are looking
very good for Sanders at this juncture. We didn't expect a big win in Iowa, and in fact, we didn't expect him to as well as he has done there. A Sanders presidency is looking more likely with each passing hour. :)
Bernie wins New Hampshire! Of course it was expected, NH being a much more liberal state than Iowa, but still it feels great! ;D
In other news, Republican morons in NH have chosen orange-skinned roadkill-toupee-wearing blowhard Donald Trump as their nominee. I suppose it's too much to ask for the fetid windbag to puff up and blow away... :P
But I -WANT- Donald Trump to be the GOP nominee. ;)
A Trump vs. Sanders race is a sure-win for Sanders, given the current economic and political climate in the USA.
Anyway...
Yes, Bernie won BIG in the New Hampshire primary, besting rival Hillary Clinton by a double-digit margin. In other words -- he totally kicked Hillary's ass. And I expect him to continue kicking Hillary's ass for the remainder of the political season. This country is taking a huge swing to the left right now... the biggest swing to the left since the 1970's, in fact. And amongst younger people, Sanders is the hands-down favorite, which is great to see.
Now let's see how he does in the southern states.
Turns out I am a Democrat again. :o
After several years of being an independent, having left the Democrats in disgust at how they have followed Republicans into corporate indenture, I received a notice from Arizona for Bernie reminding me that Arizona has a closed primary system...meaning that if I wanted to vote for Bernie in the primary, I had to be a registered Democrat. Sigh. So I went ahead and re-registered. Now on March 22nd (assuming Super Tuesday doesn't result in a washout for Bernie - which I don't think it will...the convention with its "superdelegates" will be where the establishment strikes back) I can do my part in seeing Bernie get delegates from Arizona. (I'm also making a small weekly donation to his campaign). ;)
After March 22 is another story... :P
Quote from: Cylnar on February 19, 2016, 05:45:42 PM"superdelegates"
Jesus... don't get me started. Yet another way for the oligarchy to steal away our votes. It's disgusting. >:(
Superdelegates: The one sleazy thing Democrats do that Republicans do NOT do better (and do less of). >:(
Superdelegates, electoral, and so a on, and we are all got caught in damn middle it.
Well... sigh... Hillary Clinton has won in the Nevada caucus. :(
As I write this -- with 70% of the Nevada precincts reporting -- the vote appears to be Clinton 52% and Sanders 48%.
Not too discouraging, though. It's not exactly a landslide... there's only a 4 point difference between them. Nevada has a total of 35 delegates, so what this ultimately boils down to is something like 19 delegates for Hillary and 16 delegates for Bernie.
I was hoping that Bernie would win in Nevada -- but I wasn't counting on it. I happen to live right next to Nevada, and I can tell all of you that Nevada happens to be a somewhat conservative state. Nevada isn't as whacko as Arizona (sorry, Cylnar) or the Bible Belt states... but moderate-to-conservative candidates tend to do better in Nevada than left-wing liberal candidates. So for a super-leftie like Bernie Sanders, 48% of the vote is actually pretty damned good.
I just don't get it. >:(
Despite the fact that Bernie Sanders enjoys the full backing of MoveOn.org and celebrities like Michael Moore, Susan Sarandon, Robert Reich and Mark Ruffalo... just to name a few...
...Hillary Clinton has emerged as the big winner on Super Tuesday, gathering nearly three times as many delegates as Bernie Sanders.
I really just don't get it. What the fuck is up with you, America..? Are you so afraid of the word "change" that you're willing to keep voting for name brand, corporate cock sucking toadies..? Haven't those bastards ruined enough of your lives yet..?!
HILLARY CLINTON CAN NOT BEAT DONALD TRUMP IN NOVEMBER. BUT BERNIE SANDERS CAN.
Whatever. If my country is still hell-bent on self-destructing, then so be it. But I will continue to support Bernie Sanders... right to the bitter end. This country doesn't need more of the same... what we need is a complete overhaul. And we're not gonna get to that point if we keep voting for businessmen and "players" like Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.
You all thought you were voting for "change" when you elected Barack Obama. Well... surprise, surprise..!!! He turned out to be a big, fat ZERO... and your lives are still being sapped away by the corporate domination of our political system. Don't you people get it yet..?!
A vote for Clinton is a vote for business-as-usual. It is a simple as that.
The corporate media has portrayed Hillary as inevitable...which has gone a huge way towards making her so, because people are stupid and believe what they are told. And they like to back the winner. >:(
At least Bernie took four states, which keeps him in the contest for now. 8)
Quote from: Tessera on March 01, 2016, 08:54:59 PM
I will continue to support Bernie Sanders... right to the bitter end.
Right there with you. At a minimum Bernie has forced Hillary to take positions farther to the left than she would have without Bernie in the race. Perhaps if his movement remains coherent after Hillary's anointment at the convention and if she then manages to beat Trump (if Trump wins it will spell the imminent doom of America and the eventual doom of humanity), we liberals may be able to hold her feet to the fire and force her to keep her promises (and maybe keep pushing her to the left), as was not done with Barack Obama. No president can impose a new order by fiat - not even Bernie, or Ralph Nader or Elizabeth Warren, if they had run and won. We have to both back them up and make them move forward. :police:
Of course, most likely, whatever the outcome in November, the vast majority of voters will just go back to sleep until 2020, waking only occasionally to mutter complaints about how the election didn't magically make everything better overnight... ::)
People ether can't accept reality, don't want their lives to be disrupted in anyway, or are stupid sheep.
Quote from: Blankspace on March 02, 2016, 07:04:02 AM
People can't accept reality AND don't want their lives to be disrupted in any way AND are stupid sheep.
Fixed that for you. ;)
So thats why American based Google searches on "how to move to Canada" went up 1150% thuesday night.
LOL... yeah... and after my house is paid off, I might sell it and move there myself. :-\
Bernie Wins Big In Kansas and Nebraska
Bernie Sanders has been declared the winner in both Kansas and Nebraska, with 90% of sites reporting. Bernie did especially well in Kansas, where an early look at the margins seem to indicate that Sanders won the state by about a 2.5 to 1 margin.
Kansas will give:
23 Delegates to Bernie
10 Delegates to Hillary.
Sanders: 67%
Clinton: 33%
In Nebraska, the results are not quite as dramatic, but it does appear that it will be Sanders: 60% and Clinton: 40% (more or less). So... it's not over yet. Bernie Sanders is still very much in this race.
YOUNG PEOPLE: GET OUT THERE AND VOTE, DAMMIT. I think it's great the way young people are texting and tweeting to each other about their love for Bernie Sanders... but if you don't actually go out and VOTE for the guy, then your support is ultimately meaningless. I wish we could all just sit here and vote on the internet... but that time has not come yet. So for now, you need to GET UP and GET OUT and GO VOTE. Failure to do so will ensure that Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee... which likewise means, in all likelihood, that Donald Trump will be your next president.
QuoteI wish we could all just sit here and vote on the internet... but that time has not come yet.
Closes thing to that would be a mail-in ballot, if a person's state allows that.
Bernie Kicks Ass in Michigan!
Bernie Sanders came from behind in the Michigan primary, blowing past an expected shortfall of over 20% in a stunning upset! :o
Quoth the Bern: "The results are in and we were just declared the winner in a very important state for our campaign: Michigan. That's a major, game-changing victory for our campaign. The corporate media counted us out. The pollsters said we were way behind. The Clinton super PACs spent millions against us across the country. We were hit with a dishonest attack in the debate. But we won, again... and if we continue to stand together, we can win this nomination...Millions of people have come out to vote for our political revolution. They have donated more than 5 million times to our campaign. And together, we are sending a message to the oligarchy that we are not to be underestimated."
Despite the corporate media's attempts to sabotage his campaign, Bernie keeps on truckin'...and winning! 8)
I'm a happy camper tonight for sure. ;D
This is a HUGE upset in Bernie's favor. As mentioned by Cylnar, nearly all of the pollsters and the various talking heads were predicting a landslide for Hillary Clinton in Michigan. But instead, Bernie Sanders rocked our world... by more or less destroying Hillary in the Michigan primary election. This is a big win for Sanders... and it also tells us that the race between Clinton and Sanders is far from over.
And now, I have a few comments and observations...
I think I know what Bernie's biggest problem is: he's too chivalrous and decent. No really... the man is simply too honest, forthright and polite for the seething sea of sleaze that has become modern politics. Bernie could do a lot better against Hillary... if only he were willing to be just as nasty, sarcastic, condescending and pompous as Hillary is. When I watched the most recent debate between Clinton and Sanders.. a debate which I agree was a win for Hillary... I kept shouting at the TV and saying "BERNIE... NOW!!! NAIL THE TWO-FACED BITCH!!! SHE JUST LAID HERSELF WIDE OPEN FOR AN ATTACK... SO WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU WAITING FOR..?!?!"
But no... it was not to be... because Bernie is far too kind and chivalrous and sincere to drop down to the level of negative campaigning that seems to be the norm in today's politics. That sweet old man keeps letting Hillary off the hook, when instead he should be closing in on her like a growling dog and waiting for her to provide an opening to bite her in the ass.
Don't get me wrong... I fucking HATE negative campaigning and attack dog strategies. Nevertheless, reality is reality... and if Bernie still wants to win in this race, then he's going to have to double down and start meeting fire with fire. Hillary is already guilty of unfairly attacking Sanders several times... attacks which Bernie just sort of let slide off his back and then did nothing much in the way of retaliation. And this is where Bernie fails -- he needs to bite his lip and then use his famous wit to nail Hillary to a cross.
You know... it wouldn't even need to be all that nasty on Bernie's part. Simply reading back a string of Clinton quotes ought to be enough to turn most people away from Hillary. Here... let's look at some examples of what Hillary has said about various issues -- and in her own words:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc3_5qAUsAAV1OP.jpg)
Those are pretty damning statements. What Bernie needs to do is to start dredging up a little muck on Hillary, and then let the people know just how phony and right-wing she truly is. Hillary Clinton is a Democrat in name only, folks. In every other meaningful way, she's a dead-ringer for an old-school Goldwater Republican. As a matter of fact... before she met Bill Clinton back in the early 70's, that's exactly what Hillary Clinton was: a right-wing member of The Young Republicans. She switched parties when she got married to Bill -- but from what I've seen, she didn't switch her philosophies very much at all.
Anyway... so how did Bernie win big in Michigan tonight, despite every single poll placing him at least 20 points behind in that state..?
Well, I think it's because most of those polls were taken several days or weeks ago. And during the interim, I think an increasing number of Americans are starting to get to know Bernie Sanders a little bit better. I think they're finally waking up to the idea that socialism isn't evil, liberals are not dangerous, and the Establishment (of which Hillary is a card carrying member) are ruining all of our lives... a little at a time, day after day, the quality of our lives keeps decreasing. And meanwhile, the rich just keep getting richer and more bloated at all of our expense.
QuoteThose are pretty damning statements. What Bernie needs to do is to start dredging up a little muck on Hillary, and then let the people know just how phony and right-wing she truly is. Hillary Clinton is a Democrat in name only, folks. In every other meaningful way, she's a dead-ringer for an old-school Goldwater Republican. As a matter of fact... before she met Bill Clinton back in the early 70's, that's exactly what Hillary Clinton was: a right-wing member of The Young Republicans. She switched parties when she got married to Bill -- but from what I've seen, she didn't switch her philosophies very much at all.
Anyway... so how did Bernie win big in Michigan tonight, despite every single poll placing him at least 20 points behind in that state..?
Well, I think it's because most of those polls were taken several days or weeks ago. And during the interim, I think an increasing number of Americans are starting to get to know Bernie Sanders a little bit better. I think they're finally waking up to the idea that socialism isn't evil, liberals are not dangerous, and the Establishment (of which Hillary is a card carrying member) are ruining all of our lives... a little at a time, day after day, the quality of our lives keeps decreasing. And meanwhile, the rich just keep getting richer and more bloated at all of our expense.
Also more and more shit keeps coming out on Clinton which is why more and more people are turning away from her.
Well, I think Bernie must have heard us... because he absolutely KICKED HILLARY'S ASS in Wednesday's Univision debate in Florida. :D
Sanders came out swinging and basically ripped Hillary a new asshole in that debate. But rather than offer you any highlights, I will instead urge all of you to head over to YouTube and watch the debate in its entirety:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqgTFA1HnUM
NOTE: the video is of a debate that was originally a live streaming webcast, so nothing happens in that video for the first couple of minutes. So just wait for it to begin.
Bernie did so well in that debate that he got a STANDING OVATION at the end. Hillary, on the other hand, looked completely phony and totally butt hurt.
Watch it and enjoy. And I'm glad that Bernie finally realized that he can no longer afford to be sweet and generous toward Hillary. There's simply too much at stake.
And once again the idiots of America prove they are morons and sheep. >:(
Bernie appears to have won NONE of the five states that held their primaries yesterday (Missouri, Illinois, Ohio, North Carolina and Florida). ???
Instead, the Hillary Clinton campaign is celebrating a clean sweep of all five states, though Missouri went down to the wire. :(
Man, this sucks. Not long ago we were celebrating Bernie's come-from-behind win in Michigan and a new world was within sight. :-\
Now the "inevitability" march has been resumed by Secretary Clinton and the media. :'(
But Bernie will fight this to the bitter end and so will those of us who support him. The road just got a lot steeper and rockier but it can still be done. 8)
At least it seems here in AZ that Bernie will win over Hillary. Just wish we had more liberals here in general... ::)
The corporate media decided to cover Trump's speech instead of Bernie's rally in Phoenix. Watch here what the media denied you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZiRprH55yM
Quote from: Cylnar on March 16, 2016, 06:19:27 AM
And once again the idiots of America prove they are morons and sheep. >:(
The problem is one that you have already identified: the so-called "corporate media," which absolutely positively HATES Bernie Sanders and everything that he stands for.
The fact of the matter is this: most Americans have little or no idea who Bernie Sanders actually is. They've bought into the deceptive and divisive bullshit about Sanders that is routinely spewed on cable "news" channels like Fox News and CNN. Moreover and in general, Bernie gets about 1/10 the airtime that Trump and Clinton enjoy.
The Establishment are determined to continue deceiving the American public, in their ongoing attempts to torpedo the Sanders campaign. But you know... it's funny how nearly everybody in the USA ambles about and whines that we need "change," and then when their opportunity comes to actually vote for change... they don't. They chicken out and vote for the business-as-usual Establishment candidates.
It's positively revolting to watch this cycle of apathy happening again. I watched it happen with Ralph Nader and now, with Bernie Sanders. Maybe I should move to Canada... ::)
A picture is worth a thousand words...
(http://warisacrime.org/sites/afterdowningstreet.org/files/hillaryhugfooter.jpg)
Courtesy of www.hillaryisaneocon.com
That was at the funeral of the late, unlamented astrology believer Nancy Reagan, was it not? ::)
Never in a million years would you see Bernie at a photo op like that... :P
Yes, I believe that was taken at former First Lady, former prostitute (oh yes, she was), and former astrology nut Nancy Reagan's funeral.
Not only are George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton looking very chummy in that photo, but they're both smiling and laughing.... at a funeral.
Hillary Clinton is a neocon, disguising herself as a "progressive." Just as I believe that Donald Trump is a liberal, disguising himself as a hate-mongering Republican. If Hillary ends up becoming the Democratic nominee for President, then I am quite sure that many, many fence-sitting Democrats and Independents will end up throwing their votes to Trump. So... it's a fair bet that Donald Trump will indeed become our next President, if Bernie Sanders does not get the nomination that he deserves.
Anyone but Hillary Clinton.
Quote from: Tessera on March 20, 2016, 12:55:40 PM
I believe that Donald Trump is a liberal, disguising himself as a hate-mongering Republican.
Trump is a demagogue, not a liberal. He finds it easy to whip up the small-minded, bigoted masses of Republican voters, so that's what he does. He would be the most incompetent President the country has ever had, and would make the U.S. a laughingstock. Still, he's less likely to institute a theocracy (or start Armageddon as a favor to Jeebus) than Ted Cruz... :P
Quote from: Cylnar on March 21, 2016, 02:34:43 PM
Trump is a demagogue, not a liberal.
If you take him at face value, then sure... that's certainly how he appears to be.
He has expressed "liberal" opinions in the past...now he expresses virulently "conservative" ones. Whichever get him the adulation of the crowd. I suppose if enough people cheered loudly enough for a liberal cause once Trump was president (gah!) he might then go along. :P
You're a very smart guy, Cylnar... so I think you and I will agree that our so-called "democratic" system has been rigged in this country for many, many years.
At its heart, it works like this: the Establishment... or the Plutocrats... or the shadowy, secretive Oligarchs... whichever you prefer... conspire to prop up "candidates" before us. We are then permitted to vote for whichever candidate we prefer. In order to give us a clear-cut illusion of choice, the principal candidates generally posture themselves in such a way as to seem diametrically opposed to one another... thus ensuring that regardless of which side of the fence you happen to dwell upon, there will always be a candidate who appeals to you more than "the other guy." Or the other girl, in this case.
But you see, those candidates are just putting on an act. The horrible truth of the matter is that... regardless of whomever you vote for... the candidate who wins the election will almost immediately go to work for... guess who..?
Not for you and me... why should they..? No, they're going to work on behalf of the wealthy and powerful individuals who financed their campaigns, groomed them, propped them up and promised them the moon. That's who they're going to go to work for... the afore-mentioned Establishment/Plutocrats/Oligarchs who truly run this country.
So when I said "If you take Trump at face value," what I meant was just what I've said here: he's putting on an act. You don't REALLY think Trump is that much of a bellicose, bigoted jackass, do you..? In this day and age..? C'mon.
And so is Hillary Clinton -- she's putting on an act, too. Pretending to be a left-of-center moderate Democrat. And so are most of the other candidates acting -- including the absurd candidates like Ted Cruz, who are being paid to lose. Why are Cruz and several others being paid to lose..? Again... so that the American people can have the illusion of choice. The candidates get a nice fat payoff, and the shadowy fuckers who run this show get to retain their power... regardless of who gets elected.
I support Sanders because I do not believe that he is "in on this." I think he, just like Ralph Nader and Bobby Kennedy before him, truly wants to give control of America back to the American people. Let's just hope that he doesn't suffer Bobby's fate... because if Sanders actually becomes a serious threat to the status quo, then they will almost certainly do whatever they feel is necessary to take him out of the game.
Right now, their game plan is to keep downplaying Sanders in the mass media, in the hopes that an unfair lack of exposure will cause him to simply go away. And maybe that is what will happen. But then again... maybe not.
QuoteSo when I said "If you take Trump at face value," what I meant was just what I've said here: he's putting on an act. You don't REALLY think Trump is that much of a bellicose, bigoted jackass, do you..? In this day and age..? C'mon.
Good Point, things would of gone to hell quicker if people were as crazy as they acted.
Looks like the Republicans, or somebody, are fucking with the polls here in Arizona. >:(
Here's a copy of an email I just got:
[Cylnar],
We're hearing a large number of complaints and reading numerous reports about problems at polling places around Arizona.
First off, if you are in line waiting cast your vote PLEASE STAY IN LINE TO VOTE.
Even if there are issues at your polling place, you can submit a provisional ballot -- and that ballot WILL BE COUNTED.
We can't thank you enough for voting. And as Executive Director of the Arizona Democratic Party, I am deeply committed to ensuring the integrity of our elections.
So if you had a problem voting today, I want to hear about it. Please fill out a short form notify us of what you experienced.
We will be compiling your stories as the basis of a complaint to the Secretary of State's office. Our Elections officials need to be held accountable for the mess they allowed to happen today. So please tell us about any issues you experienced while voting today >>
Thank you for continuing to wait in line. EVERY vote should be counted, and I'm going to fight to make sure Arizona improves its voting process.
Thank you,
Sheila Healy
Executive Director
Arizona Democratic Party
Fortunately I already cast my vote for Bernie by mail (I am a permanent absentee voter despite the fact that my polling place is about 50 yards from my back door - all states should follow Oregon's lead and abolish polling places to defeat Republican attempts to burden the voting process) so this issue didn't affect me. However, I wouldn't be surprised if some other irregularity just so happens to crop up with the mail-in ballots... :P
QuoteLooks like the Republicans, or somebody, are fucking with the polls here in Arizona. Angry
Here's a copy of an email I just got:
[Cylnar],
We're hearing a large number of complaints and reading numerous reports about problems at polling places around Arizona.
First off, if you are in line waiting cast your vote PLEASE STAY IN LINE TO VOTE.
Even if there are issues at your polling place, you can submit a provisional ballot -- and that ballot WILL BE COUNTED.
We can't thank you enough for voting. And as Executive Director of the Arizona Democratic Party, I am deeply committed to ensuring the integrity of our elections.
So if you had a problem voting today, I want to hear about it. Please fill out a short form notify us of what you experienced.
We will be compiling your stories as the basis of a complaint to the Secretary of State's office. Our Elections officials need to be held accountable for the mess they allowed to happen today. So please tell us about any issues you experienced while voting today >>
Thank you for continuing to wait in line. EVERY vote should be counted, and I'm going to fight to make sure Arizona improves its voting process.
Thank you,
Sheila Healy
Executive Director
Arizona Democratic Party
Fortunately I already cast my vote for Bernie by mail (I am a permanent absentee voter despite the fact that my polling place is about 50 yards from my back door - all states should follow Oregon's lead and abolish polling places to defeat Republican attempts to burden the voting process) so this issue didn't affect me. However, I wouldn't be surprised if some other irregularity just so happens to crop up with the mail-in ballots... Tongue
Same here.
Also I found a news article.
Something Is Going Seriously Wrong at Arizona Polls Todayhttp://usuncut.com/news/arizona-polling-disaster/
QuoteArizona's primaries aren't even done yet, and there's already legal action being taken as a result of incompetence or possibly even intentional sabotage.
Leaders from the Arizona branch of the Democratic Party have confirmed that its lawyers are officially making an inquiry after multiple Democratic voters showed up to the polls only to find that they were listed as independents, Republicans, or had no party affiliation at all.
Many voters wound up having to wait in line under the hot Arizona sun only to find that they were ineligible to vote for the candidates of their choice. To add insult to injury, the polling locations have been so poorly planned that many voters had to wait in line up to four hours before finding out that their information had been improperly filed.
McCain's Revenge.
Anyway... as I've been saying for about 8 years now...
Buy Guns. And learn how to use them.
Email communication from the Sanders campaign:
[Friend] -
What happened yesterday in Arizona should be considered a national disgrace. I got an email last night from a woman who waited five hours to vote in Arizona. Five hours.
We don't know how many thousands of people didn't get to cast their ballots yesterday in Arizona because they couldn't afford to wait that long. Scenes on cable news last night showed hundreds of people in line at 11:30pm in Phoenix – more than four hours after polls closed. Voting should not be this difficult.
One reason it is so hard to vote in Arizona is because the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act. There were 70 percent fewer polling places this year than in 2012 in Phoenix's county. They wouldn't have been allowed to cut those polling places if the Voting Rights Act was still in tact.
These cuts meant that, in a county with more than 4 million residents, there were just 60 polling places. This is unacceptable, but it's also not an isolated incident.
We need to make it easier to vote, not more difficult. One way we can do that is by reaffirming our support for the Voting Rights Act, which, when I am president, I will fight to reinstate.
Add your name to say you support reinstating the Voting Rights Act so we can make voting easier for everybody, not more difficult. (https://go.berniesanders.com/page/s/reinstate-voting-rights-act?source=em160323-full)
We cannot continue to see democracy undermined in the United States of America. Enough is enough.
Make no mistake: the billionaire class does not want Americans to vote. Billions of dollars are being funneled into our elections in a form of legalized bribery, even as American voters — especially minority voters — are being discouraged from voting. It is no wonder that government no longer works for ordinary Americans.
Above all, we need to remember the price that was paid for the right to vote. The Voting Rights Act was one of the great victories of the civil rights movement. Now, as then, change comes when the people demand it — in the voting booth, and on the streets in peaceful demonstrations. We must remind ourselves of what's been achieved in the past, and resolve to do equally great things in the future. Democracy is not a spectator sport.
It is my sincere hope that the states that vote in the coming weeks and months do better than what we saw yesterday in Arizona. Too much is at stake for our future.
Right now, what we can do is show your support by adding your name to say you want to reinstate the Voting Rights Act. Click here to add your name. (https://go.berniesanders.com/page/s/reinstate-voting-rights-act?source=em160323-full)
No one said a political revolution would be easy. The billionaire class doesn't want to see our movement win, and so we must do everything we can to show them that we have the power.
In solidarity,
Bernie Sanders
I still think guns would be more effective at this point.
Bloomberg National Poll - March 24, 2016
Bernie Sanders: 49%
Hillary Clinton: 48%
...so why are we still hearing all of this "Sanders is not electable" crap on TV..?
Quote from: Tessera on March 24, 2016, 04:35:49 PM
...so why are we still hearing all of this "Sanders is not electable" crap on TV..?
Because Bernie isn't putting money in the "right" pockets.
Chris Mathews directed to "Stop Talking" during a segment on Bernie Sanders
QuoteSo much media bias that they can't even keep it contained.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HEVtJfjcXg
If the corporate media hates Bernie so much, then YOU KNOW he must be good for the rest of us.
In my home state of California, it's pretty much a given that the Democratic candidate... whomever he or she may be... is going to get the vast majority of California votes. So in the general election in November, I am therefore going to vote my conscience... and WRITE IN a vote for Bernie Sanders, if he does not end up becoming the Democratic nominee.
Anybody can do this in the USA... you simply need to request a written ballot when you arrive at the polling station. They may give you a bunch of shit, and tell you to go "wait over there" or whatever, but every American has the legal right to request a written ballot in any and all presidential elections. Especially after all of the very serious questions that have been raised regarding the integrity of automated voting machines.
TRIVIA: many of the companies that manufacture voting machines in the USA are also heavy contributors to the Republican party. Just an important bit of FYI for ya's. Why such things are legal... I have no idea.
I always use a mail in ballot whenever I can.
Quote from: Blankspace on March 27, 2016, 09:14:32 PM
I always use a mail in ballot whenever I can.
Me too. I came of age in Oregon, which was the first state to switch to exclusively mail balloting only (though not until after I had voted a couple times; I did visit a polling place once I believe). So in both states I have lived in besides Oregon (Washington and Arizona) I have registered for permanent early voter/absentee balloting status. That way you get to avoid any issues with voting machines and any shenanigans like the recent Arizona voting fiasco. Not to mention the new voter ID laws and other voter suppression bullshit Republicans and ALEC have forced on states they control (like Arizona) in an attempt to disenfranchise likely Democratic voters (legal since the Supreme Court Five gutted the Voting Rights Act a while ago). I would recommend to anyone never to darken the door of a polling place if they can possibly avoid it. ;)
Quote from: Tessera on March 27, 2016, 09:09:18 PM
In my home state of California, it's pretty much a given that the Democratic candidate... whomever he or she may be... is going to get the vast majority of California votes. So in the general election in November, I am therefore going to vote my conscience... and WRITE IN a vote for Bernie Sanders, if he does not end up becoming the Democratic nominee.
I have the same freedom...for the opposite reason. Arizona will certainly be carried by the Republican nominee (probably Trump) and my holding my nose to vote for Hillary in November won't change that. So I will also be able to write in my vote for Bernie, if it comes to that. :P
Here's a couple of good, short (about nine minutes total) videos about why you should vote for Bernie.
First: comedienne Sarah Silverman on Why You Should Vote (For Bernie): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEU5i_fG-_Q
Second: Put together by a Bernie supporter who ought to be hired by the campaign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSRUmRYrRLY
8)
I love Sarah Silverman. She has gorgeous tits.
Ooops... sorry.... politics, right. I was thinking about her topless scene in Masters Of Sex and I got distracted. :-[
Well, I still love Sarah Silverman and I think her pro-Bernie video will be very effective. She's intelligent, she's down-to-earth and she's right on the mark.
Hillary Clinton Loses Patience with Greenpeace Activist Over Fossil Fuel Donations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC4Pvm6Oj4A
Quote"At a Hillary Clinton rally at SUNY Purchase campus today, the presidential candidate lost her patience with a Greenpeace activist who thanked her for her commitment to climate change then asked her whether she'll reject fossil fuel money moving forward. Pointing her finger at activist Eva Resnick-Day, Clinton claimed she only takes money from people who work for fossil fuel companies and called the accusations lies."
Hillary Clinton is a lying, hypocritical, two-faced whore.
I can't put it any more honestly, truthfully and bluntly than that.
She is also a criminal, who may very well be indicted before she even gets the chance to run in the general election. Although, I am sure that her high-powered connections will do everything that they can to to forestall any such criminal proceedings until after the election... presuming, of course, that she actually ends up becoming the Democratic nominee.
Quote from: Tessera on April 01, 2016, 01:36:45 AMI am sure that her high-powered connections will do everything that they can to to forestall any such criminal proceedings until after the election... presuming, of course, that she actually ends up becoming the Democratic nominee.
Or block such proceedings entirely, or at least stall until evidence for anything worse than say, the email equivalent of a cum-stained dress, is "lost" or otherwise compromised. :P
You may be happy to know that currently, there is a massive petition... as well as a grassroots campaign... to compel the
U.S. Dept. of Justice to investigate the recent (and scandalous) voter disenfranchisement which took place in Arizona.
You can join us and show your support, by signing the petition here:
http://act.credoaction.com/sign/az_voter_suppression?referring_akid=a224501537.6664660.iX9b0Z&source=conf_email&aktmid=tm2299265.ja2rgl&t=2
It's a shame that we need to scream at our officials before they actually get up off their flabby asses and do their jobs. >:(
Another HUGE Win For Bernie Sanders
In yesterday's Wisconsin primary... a big state, so far as the number of delegates are concerned... Sanders destroyed Clinton:
Sanders (won) -- 56.5% (45 delegates)
Clinton (lost) -- 43% (31 delegates)
So here we are again... Bernie Sanders, the candidate that the corporate media keep referring to as "un-electable," not only defeated Hillary Clinton... but he defeated her by a 13.5 percent margin. That's a very substantial victory.
Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton's popularity... according to most of the polls... has been dropping like a stone during the past couple of months. I think a lot of folks out there are finally starting to recognize just how phony and condescending Hillary truly is.
And thanks to more Arizona-style voter registration shenanigans (suspicious voter party affiliation shifts and the like) and the state Democratic party's ridiculously stringent rules (such as a six-month-out registration deadline, the worst in the country), Bernie lost to Hillary by 18 points in New York. ??? :o >:(
That's after polling showed the gap within or nearly within the margin of error yesterday. But the state party, whose officials are in the tank for Hillary (like most state party affiliates) succeeded in reinforcing the establishment candidate through bullshit games. And don't forget the "Hillary Victory Fund" clusterfuck... >:( >:( >:(
Read about the election issues here: http://www.salon.com/2016/04/19/3_2_million_shut_out_in_nyc_listen_to_board_of_elections_tell_resident_you_cannot_vote_today_being_an_independent/
About the Hillary Victory Fund: http://www.salon.com/2016/04/19/a_message_to_george_clooney_hillary_clinton_isnt_out_to_help_down_ticket_democrats_shes_out_to_help_hillary_clinton/
The situation in New York is intolerable. An enormous number of young people... most of whom only started "feeling the Bern" in the past few months or so... were prevented from voting in NY due to the ridiculous registration requirement that you cited, Cylnar. To vote in the NY primary, you had to have registered to vote waaaaaay back in October of LAST YEAR. Naturally, this works against Sanders... whose popularity didn't really start to bloom until three or four months ago.
The entire political system is rigged in favor of the Establishment candidates. Even Donald Trump said so.
Furthermore, an enormous number of NY voters were turned away at the voting booth, because apparently their party affiliations had been mysteriously changed to "Independent" without their knowledge or consent. A class-action lawsuit has therefore been filed in NY, by and for the voters who were screwed out of their opportunity to exercise their Constitutional rights. We'll have to keep an eye on that lawsuit and see how it develops.
At this point, the numbers are making a Sanders nomination look practically impossible. But I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet. During the course of my entire lifetime, there have only been THREE presidential candidates who were actually worth a damn: George McGovern, Ralph Nader and now Bernie Sanders. I'm not quite ready to walk away from that. Not yet. And thankfully, neither is Bernie. This one needs to keep going... right to the bitter end. Even if Sanders ultimately decides to withdraw from the race, the bold anti-Establishment statement that his campaign has been (and still is) making needs to be pushed right to the edge... for the sake of future elections.
Theres a video floating around calling Hillary Clinton a career criminal, and after watching it, even if only half of the stuff in it is true, its hard to imagine why she isnt in jail right now.
...Yeah, i know.
QuoteEven if Sanders ultimately decides to withdraw from the race, the bold anti-Establishment statement that his campaign has been (and still is) making needs to be pushed right to the edge... for the sake of future elections.
And don't vote for that bitch Hillary.
I think a lot of Bernie supporters will simply wind up not voting if Hillary is the Democratic nominee. There's too much hatred for Hillary among us.
In which case, there's a high probability that our next President will be a Republican... possibly Donald Trump. :(
And Bernie got screwed again in four out of five states last night. The system is working as it was rigged to. >:(
And get a load of this from yesterday:
Hillary Clinton Trolls Shut Down Pro-Bernie Sanders Facebook Groups
by Amanda Girard
Tuesday, April 26, 2016
http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-facebook-groups-trolled/
Some of the biggest pro-Bernie Sanders groups on Facebook were briefly taken down Monday evening in a targeted attack by Hillary Clinton supporters.
The groups Bernie Sanders Activists, Bernie Believers, BERNIE OR BUST, Bernie Sanders Revolutionaries, Bay Area for Bernie, Bernie Sanders 2016 — Ideas Welcome, Bernie Sanders is my HERO, and Bernie Sanders for President 2016 were all taken down in the attack. The pages in question were reported to be down for about three hours, from 9 p.m. to midnight Monday night.
Collectively, these groups are home to more than a quarter million Bernie Sanders supporters, and some have been in existence for nearly a year, having been launched shortly after the Vermont senator declared his intent to run for president in 2015.
The groups were targeted by online trolls, who posted pornographic images and reported the groups to Facebook admins. Some legitimate Bernie supporters even reported seeing images containing pedophilia, according to reporting from Heavy.com.
Erica Libenow, a Sanders supporter and member of one of the pro-Bernie groups, said, "We had what looked like a kiddie porn posted in one of our groups today. I reported that one. Seriously made me want to vomit."
There is at least one culprit to be found in Facebook user Casey Champagne, who bragged about taking down the pages in the pro-Hillary Clinton group BROS 4 HILLARY – #GiveEmHill — the pro-Clinton page was briefly taken down, but was restored on Tuesday.
Other Hillary Clinton fans were cheering on Champagne's trolling, encouraging him to try to take down Bernie Sanders' official Facebook page. Another Facebook user openly admitted that her husband frequently reported pro-Sanders posts on Facebook in hopes that they would be taken down, saying his success rate was "about 50/50 on a good day."
Facebook user Robert Olivarez told Champagne, "You know they all can see this post?" Champagne cavalierly responded, "You know I don't care?"
Champagne, and possibly other Clinton supporters, essentially mass-reported content in these pro-Sanders Facebook groups claiming the content was graphically violent, pornographic, or abusive — including the reprehensible content posted by Clinton supporters themselves. Facebook's automated systems take note of how many individuals report a particular post, and if the post is reported enough, it will be taken down. This same process applies to groups, pages, and individual user accounts.
Bros 4 Hillary (B4H) sent US Uncut this statement on Tuesday morning:
Last night, a former member by the name of Casey Champagne decided to engage in harassing behavior toward Facebook groups of Bernie Sanders and posted about it in the B4H Facebook group. As stated above, this was not promoted or supported by the leadership of B4H, nor were we immediately aware of this conduct. We removed the offending posts and member as soon as possible. While our leadership team of administrators tries to catch every questionable post and comment, with over 7,000 members and on a 24-hour posting cycle, some fall through the cracks. We rely on members to "flag and report" harmful, offensive, or trolling behavior, and apologize to the groups that were affected. This member acted on his own authority, is not apart of our leadership team, and does not represent our ideals or our opinions.
Casey Champagne did not immediately respond to interview requests from US Uncut.
It's still unclear if these gutter tactics are tied to Correct the Record, the pro-Hillary Clinton Super PAC that openly declared last week that it would launch a sophisticated social media campaign aimed at Bernie Sanders supporters. Correct the Record earmarked $1 million for the effort, named "Barrier Breakers 2016," which aims to "correct" Sanders supporters who criticize Hillary Clinton on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, and Instagram. However, some of Casey Champagne's recent likes are Correct the Record, Barrier Breakers, and an anti-Sanders page called "Pragmatic Progressives."
The shutdown of pro-Sanders groups comes just one day before a crucial string of primaries in Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Rhode Island, where 384 pledged delegates are at stake.
Fucking shills.
It's all over.
Once again, the Establishment has profited from the apathy and the gullibility of the American people sheeple.
I'm seriously considering moving farther north. :-[
America... is this REALLY what you people want..?
(http://www.tessmage.com/images/freaks/Hillary_Vampire.jpg)
...
At this point, I'm hoping that the FBI indicts Hillary for her numerous crimes, prior to the Dem. Convention.
Sanders needs to stay in this fight... to the bitter end. Forcing a contested convention should be his next plan.
Win or lose, Bernie Sanders has the support of the American people. And that statement needs to be pushed.
PS -- C'mon, Wikileaks..!!! Assange..? Where the hell are you people..?! We all need you... badly.
Ouchy.
Aren't these eyes from the Christopher Lee's portrayal of Dracula? They suit her well given her pursuits, I should think...
LOL... I hadn't even thought about it until you mentioned it. The only thing I changed in that photo was her teeth, and I added a trickle of blood from her mouth. The rest of it is 100% the real Hillary.
But now that you bring it up, yeah... if you took Christopher Lee's face from one of his Dracula portrayals, and then just tack Hillary's hair on top of Lee's face... and wow, it's almost a perfect match.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Dracula_1958_c.jpg)
PS -- best movie Dracula EVER, BTW.
Lately, the media seems to be trying to encourage Bernie Sanders to endorse Hillary Clinton.
You wanna know what I think..?
Endorsing Hillary Clinton would be the worst thing that Sanders could possibly do. For many reasons -- but I'm gonna focus on one reason in particular.
Just imagine this, for a moment: Hillary Clinton's criminal past finally sees the light of day, and she is indicted. Possibly jailed. Possibly forced to resign, if she happens to be the President at the time. Then do you know what that means for Sanders..? He goes down in history as the guy who, in the 11th hour, endorsed a criminal for President.
No way, Bernie... don't even go there. Just keep your distance.
Quote from: Tessera on July 04, 2016, 12:21:36 AM
Lately, the media seems to be trying to encourage Bernie Sanders to endorse Hillary Clinton.
You wanna know what I think..?
Endorsing Hillary Clinton would be the worst thing that Sanders could possibly do. For many reasons -- but I'm gonna focus on one reason in particular.
Just imagine this, for a moment: Hillary Clinton's criminal past finally sees the light of day, and she is indicted. Possibly jailed. Possibly forced to resign, if she happens to be the President at the time. Then do you know what that means for Sanders..? He goes down in history as the guy who, in the 11th hour, endorsed a criminal for President.
No way, Bernie... don't even go there. Just keep your distance.
Not to mention that would be bad for the party as a whole.
Oh man... SCREW the party. The Democrats are nothing but slimy corporate boot-lickers these days... same as the Republicans.
Bernie should go back to being an Independent... or maybe join the party that I belong to (the Green Party).
Quote from: Tessera on July 04, 2016, 06:23:43 AM
Oh man... SCREW the party. The Democrats are nothing but slimy corporate boot-lickers these days... same as the Republicans.
Bernie should go back to being an Independent... or maybe join the party that I belong to (the Green Party).
Yea maybe a implosion in one of the main parties will finally get the people to go 3rd party for once.
Going independent is what Bernie should do if he doesn't get picked.
I would love for him to make an independent run, but I just don't see it happening.
This is a chance to see all the GOP and the DEM are really made of, and you know what I mean.
Sanders expected to endorse Clinton on Tuesday: New York Times
Reuters
Thursday, July 7, 2016
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/sanders-expected-to-endorse-clinton-on-tuesday-new-york-times/
U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders is expected to endorse Democrat Hillary Clinton for president on Tuesday at a campaign event in New Hampshire, the New York Times reported on Thursday.
Citing three Democrats who have been involved in the planning, the Times said the endorsement was partly the result of daily talks between the two candidates' campaign managers about bringing together the two rivals and advancing Sanders' policy priorities.
:o :'( >:(
No comment.
Except to say that I'm utterly disgusted.
Quote from: Tessera on July 07, 2016, 06:46:02 PM
No comment.
Except to say that I'm utterly disgusted.
After watching some highlights from the 2016 Democratic Convention, I'm even more disgusted than I was before.
I'm so disgusted, in fact, that I am now going to advise everyone who supported Bernie Sanders to do one of the following two things:
(1) Vote for Donald Trump in November...
or...(2) Don't vote at all.
Sounds crazy, eh..?
No -- it isn't as crazy as it sounds. A vote for Hillary Clinton will amount to our tacit approval of the ILLEGAL activities conducted by Clinton's staff, as well as by the Democratic National Committee in general. These revolting oligarchs do not deserve to be rewarded for tampering with voter registrations, locking enormous numbers of voters out of the primaries, and deliberately doing everything that they could do to torpedo the Sanders campaign.
Voting for Donald Trump sounds horrible, I know. There is no question, so far as I am concerned, that a Trump presidency will be ruinous for America.
But you know what..? I think that might just be what has to happen at this point:
America needs to be ruined. The American sheeple are still far too brainwashed, complacent and obedient to stand up for themselves and tear apart the corrupt ruling class. Americans have been bought off, so far, with cheap electronic toys, inexpensive and inferior Chinese-made
disposable products, brainless and mind-numbing TV shows, and gimmicks, propaganda and rhetoric, and a crapload of disinformation. So maybe the only way to shock these people back to their senses is to
deliberately keep voting for vicious right-wing lunatics (like Trump) until finally... FINALLY... everyone is hurting SO BAD that they are ready to actively... even militantly, if need be... take this country back.
In any dilemma that seems unsolvable, it is often helpful to change any variable and then step back and re-examine the problem. I am suggesting that we change one of those variables -- by electing people that we
know will be absolutely
terrible choices. It may sound counter-intuitive, but I don't think it is. I see it as being more of a way to nudge the dilemma towards the point of critical mass, so to speak. If trying to elect good people like Sanders didn't work, for whatever reason, then let's try changing a different variable: let's elect nothing but bad people. This will introduce a change (albeit a negative one) into the dilemma and then, we can all step back and re-examine the problem.
Of course, I realize that the thought of voting for a psychotic douchebag like Trump is simply too horrifying for most
true lefties to bear. So to them I say: then simply DO NOT VOTE AT ALL. The ruling class is going to get their way, regardless of who you vote for. Clearly, the entire "democratic process" has been rigged. So you may as well sleep with a clear conscience... and refuse to participate in a faux democracy that has been usurped by the ultra-rich.
As for myself, I haven't yet decided what to do. Probably not vote at all, since there is absolutely nothing to be lost by abstaining.
I predict that voter turnout in November will be the lowest of all time. And by a large margin.
You are not the only one who might do this. It;s going to get worse before it gets better, or maybe not.
I switched my party affiliation to Green the day after Bernie endorsed Hillary (I had switched previously from independent to Democrat to vote for Bernie). I'm planning to vote for Dr. Stein (as I did in the last election). 8)
Some people just won't learn until it blows up in their face.
I read somewhere that less than 9% of Americans actually voted for Trump/Clinton...
So that's like 2.7m Americans, or a city the size of Chicago, out of 300m+...
How the hell can that even be considered representative?
Quote from: Cylnar on July 31, 2016, 09:00:21 PM
I switched my party affiliation to Green the day after Bernie endorsed Hillary (I had switched previously from independent to Democrat to vote for Bernie). I'm planning to vote for Dr. Stein (as I did in the last election). 8)
Why not register as unaffiliated?
Whichever clown wins this farce tonight, good luck to you guys.
This election should be dubbed "The War Of The Narcissists." >:(
I voted today. But I didn't cast a vote for the President. Why..? Because I honestly don't give a flying fuck who wins. Both of them are equally nasty and unstable parasites.
Instead, I cast my votes in the local elections, as well as voting for the various propositions that we have on the ballot here in California. Most importantly, I voted "Yes" in favor of Proposition 64, which would legalize the adult (over 21) use of marijuana for recreational purposes.