possible script error

[Prisoner416]

Installed the True patch Gold, with Hotfix 6.

Started as a Brujah, female. Encountered the man outside the Pawn Shop, the one you can ask for money or mug. First time I talked, I hit him up for money saying my wallet was missing, and was denied due to lack of skills.

When I talked to him a second time, I got this error in the seduction line.

[Tessera]

Never seen that before. Weird.

[Schu]

Nether have I. Whats even more weird, I don't think the Brujah have a special response to that guy. If I remember right it is a generic seduction response.

EDIT:
Okay, I thought something looked strange, so I did a quick peek, and it looks like Troika forgot to put a specific line in for the Brujah in that dlg, or forgot to remove that line.

To give you an idea, here is my dlg cypher (a work in progress) to show what should be put in each bracket.

Specific response type:
{      }{   general male   }{   general female   }{      }{      }{      }{   brujah   }{   gangrel   }{   nosferatu   }{   toreador   }{   tremere   }{   ventrue   } {   Malkaian   }

Specific script callout:
{  line #    }{      }{      }{   goto line #   }{   set disposition or feat   }{   set isclan or not isclan   }{      }{      }{      }{      }{      }{      }{      }

[Tessera]

Good find, Prisoner. It does indeed appear to be a legitimate error. The error occurs within a file named "smblueblood.dlg" and it is actually very easy to fix.

It's not a scripting error... it's simpler than that. It's just a missing line of Brujah dialogue. I think the reason that none of us have ever seen it before is because normally, the player doesn't have very many points in Seduction st such an early stage of the game. Hence the Seduction response never even shows up during our exchange with the blue blood.

Troika apparently used this line...

{   This is a PC response if the player is a brujah   }

...as a placeholder and then, they totally forgot to write the actual line of dialogue.

Alrighty, I'll have to write the new line myself. Same as I did when I was forced to write Malk-specific dialogue for the initial encounter with Heather.

After I fix it, the new dialogue file will be added to a future TPG hotfix.

Many thanks for your help. 

[Prisoner416]

Yeah, I maxed out my skill in seduction as much as possible to get that.

I'm also hunting for typos, but only saw one so far... the screenshot failed for that, though.

Those are more minor though, and unless I find a collection of 10, 20-ish, I won't be posting them one by one.

The new line shouldn't be hard, I think all classes except Nossie have the same seduction line. Should be an easy copy over.

[Tessera]

Okay, I went ahead and added a new line of dialogue in place of that error.

But now, here's the interesting thing... when I did an actual play-test, using a fresh new
female Brujah character, that Seduction line never came up. Not once, in several trials.

First, I used the dev console to raise her Seduction up to level 7...




...and then this is what I saw, during her dialogue with the SM Blueblood:



I included that bottom panel simply to show that Seduction does indeed work for a female character during
her dialogue with the SM Blueblood. So at least we know that he likes girls.  

As you can see, the line in question doesn't even appear for a female Brujah. Not during normal gameplay.
I can fix the dialogue, yes... and I did. But it doesn't even seem to showing up at all. Not for female Brujah.
Her other Seduction lines are showing up just fine, as seen in those screenshots. But not the line in question.

More information is needed. What clan were you playing..? Which gender was your character..?
Are you using any mods for VTMB..? And are you using the most recent version of the True Patch..?

[Schu]

I think what happened to Prisoner only happens under certain circumstances. I'm going to be messing around with the
game tonight, so I'll make a female Brujah and try to replicate the issue to see if thats it. If I'm right, I'll let you know.

[Tessera]

Standing by...

[Schu]

Okay, I did my playing around, and found you have to meet a certain set of circumstances, to get the Brujah comment to come up.
It took me about 5 trys to get it to work, but it worked. I had to have a Persuasion of 4, a Seduction of 2, then ask him for money,
then I walked away upped my Seduction to 4 then tried again and ta-da.

I attached a screen shot, for proof. As you can see I altered the line.

[Tessera]

Thanks, Schu. Well, it certainly explains why nobody ever reported it before.

Anyway, I'll add the repaired file to the TPG. It's an extremely minor error,
so it's not worth releasing another Hotfix. I'll just tuck it into the existing
copy of the TPG on our server.

[Schu]

Your welcome.

The nice part was that Prisoner gave some good info on his issue, which made it somewhat easy for me to figure out what
went wrong. Especially seeing as it was a .dlg issue with a screen shot, and background information, which made it easy for
me to chase it down. All I had to do was replicate it. Once that was done, I just had to pass on the information to you, then
the rest is in your court.

True, this was an easy one (I didn't have to spend hours trying to replicate it), but it could have taken me days to figure out.

Just a heads up; Wesp didn't fix this issue (according to 7.9), he just deleted the line, instead of fixing it (by adding an
appropriate line). What a hypocrite.

Sorry all, but I had to say that.

[Tessera]

Well then, it is yet another bug which has been fixed exclusively by the TPG.  

This issue has now been solved. No further discussion is necessary.


Keep those bug reports comin', folks. There are no big things left at this point... but even the little things are still worth investigating.

[Kyon]

yeah I think same with Tess

[Prisoner416]

Excellent. Basically the background was that I had spent most of my points towards seduction at the game start.

Then after failing the request for money, I talked to him again and got that error.

Glad the info and screenshot were helpful. I could have provided a save game if I had seen the request for more info sooner, but not needed now.

Interesting if Wesp chose to just remove the line. Explains why I never saw that error in his mod.

Guess I should redownload the patch again now that it's fixed.

[Prisoner416]

Okay, I did my playing around, and found you have to meet a certain set of circumstances, to get the Brujah comment to come up.
It took me about 5 trys to get it to work, but it worked. I had to have a Persuasion of 4, a Seduction of 2, then ask him for money,
then I walked away upped my Seduction to 4 then tried again and ta-da.

I attached a screen shot, for proof. As you can see I altered the line.

Wait a second... please tell me that's not the line you included in the fix... "wana" should be spelled "want to" or, if slang is needed, "wanna".

[Schu]

Heh,heh,heh.

That was something I threw in just for testing, Tess is probably using a completely different line.

And yes, I was using slang (oops) 

[Tessera]

That was something I threw in just for testing, Tess is probably using a completely different line.

For the record, the missing Seduction line in question was changed to:

"Is that a wad of cash in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?"


This repair is contained within the current version of the TPG being offered for download from our server.

My thanks once again to Prisoner416, for bringing this rather obscure bug to my attention.